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Post by kash Tue Jan 19, 2010 7:49 pm

Basically I'm looking for the perfect pokemon team, I have collected one of every non-NFE pokemon EVd, and I want to make a team that is all around good. These are some that I know over the years of battling and experience I know would be good contenders:

Blissey (with seismic toss, it has KOd my opponents and miraculously saved me games before)

Gengar (great switch in on fighting type moves like focus punch breloom, and an all-around sweeper)

Jolteon (HP Ice, Thunderbolt, Wish, and Shadow Ball keeps it all around strong against many pokemon. No pokemon resists all the moves.)

Salamence (Good physical sweeper but lacks speed, good typing resists many things but ice is a definite killer on it)

Scizor (Technician + STAB Bullet Punch + 394 Base Power = 90 Base power priority move, but steel isn't super-effective against many things and fire is a killer to scizor)

Gliscor (good defensive baton passer, ninjask dies too fast due to stealth rock)

Skarmory (sets up stealth rock effectively and can survive a good number of physical blows)

Azelf (Great type coverage with the moveset Psychic, Flamethrower, Grass Knot and Nasty Plot, great speed coupled with sp atk, and can take 1 or 2 strong attacks in the rare-ish case it is hit)

Ambipom (not really that great, a little to predictable with a Fake-out start and then u-turn or otherwise, can easily be countered by Focus Blast Gengar)

Heatran (good type coverage with flame body ability, great sp atk and hard to kill but quite slow)

Dragonite (extremespeed is its main advantage over the common dragons Salamence and Flygon, and its bulk accounts for the low speed as well)

Infernape (good set is probably mix-ape, even though I'm quite against mix pokemon, but it has tremendous speed and great attack/sp attack but bad typing and takes good damage from stealth rock)

This list will be updated.


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Post by Nightmare17 Tue Jan 19, 2010 7:59 pm

Well the best Defensive combo in the game is the Celebi (Tinkerbell), Swampert (Bulky), Heatran (Scarfed), but it's not to popular amoug trainers. The best Offensive combo is the Scizor (Swords), and any offensive dragon if you want bulky go for D-Knight (Offensive), if you want speed go far Flygon (Scarfed).
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Post by kash Tue Jan 19, 2010 8:04 pm

Yeah, I'll add D-Night, also because it has the extremespeed advantage.
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Post by Nightmare17 Tue Jan 19, 2010 8:21 pm

For the last pokemon you could use a sweeper speed demon
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Post by Pierre Tue Jan 19, 2010 8:27 pm

like floatzel like u said to me nightmare17
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Post by Nightmare17 Tue Jan 19, 2010 8:34 pm

Floatzel does work with your team Pierre, but with a team like this I recommend using someone like Infernape (Scouter), Arcanine (Physical), or maybe even Sharpedo (Life Orb)
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Post by Pierre Tue Jan 19, 2010 8:40 pm

i guess depends on ur battle style
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Post by Nightmare17 Tue Jan 19, 2010 8:41 pm

Pierre wrote:i guess depends on ur battle style
No not really it depends more on pokemon sinergy.
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Post by kash Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:13 pm

Yeah the way the pokemon interact with one another really makes a difference, for example, Floatzel is set well as a rain dancer, but if I had something like Kingdra that would double up on swift swim it would be more effective.
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Post by Pierre Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:16 pm

yeha i was thinking of making a raindance team kingdra floatzel and ludicolo to use against ubers or random people
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Post by Nightmare17 Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:18 pm

kash i found the last pokemon for your team Leadape AKA Infernape
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Post by kash Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:24 pm

Yeah that'd be a very powerful set if executed correctly, however the only thing I can obviously see it lacks is a strong fire type move for those many pokemon whose only big weakness is fire moves (forretress, skarmory, scizor, bronzong, and many more), all of them being OU of course.
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Post by Nightmare17 Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:32 pm

kash wrote:Yeah that'd be a very powerful set if executed correctly, however the only thing I can obviously see it lacks is a strong fire type move for those many pokemon whose only big weakness is fire moves (forretress, skarmory, scizor, bronzong, and many more), all of them being OU of course.
That's wat Leadape is for he's not just a lead but also an end gamer as well
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Post by kash Tue Jan 19, 2010 10:43 pm

Leadape would be what kind of moveset?

Stealth Rock is a given I'm assuming.
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Post by Nightmare17 Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:01 pm

Leadape
Nature: Naive
EVs: 252/Spd, 130/Atk, 128/Sp.Atk
-Close Combat
-Flamethrower or Fire Blast
-Fake Out
-Stealth Rock
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Post by kash Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:15 pm

Sounds fast, strong, but incredibly weak. lol!
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Post by Nightmare17 Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:36 pm

it has the potential to OHKO most leads while setting up stealth rocks after it kills them. Oh and BTW i'm using my secondary signal cuz my house signal got F ed up for some reason so it's not to strong
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Post by kash Wed Jan 20, 2010 8:14 pm

Yeah, okay, but it is still very vulnerable to something like an azelf with high speed and psychic, but I guess its goodness beats its badness by a long shot haha.
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Post by Nightmare17 Wed Jan 20, 2010 8:20 pm

kash wrote:Yeah, okay, but it is still very vulnerable to something like an azelf with high speed and psychic, but I guess its goodness beats its badness by a long shot haha.
i killed a CS Azelf with it fast the same way i got your Skarmory and yea it has more ups then downs
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Post by kash Wed Jan 20, 2010 8:22 pm

CS as in choice specs? dangggg that's pretty beast, what move did you use?
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Post by Nightmare17 Wed Jan 20, 2010 8:26 pm

kash wrote:CS as in choice specs? dangggg that's pretty beast, what move did you use?
the same as on your Skarmory Fake out then Flamethrower and yup Choice Specs, and Choice Scarf both
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Post by Landon Wed Jan 20, 2010 8:32 pm

pffffff

inner focus lead dnite for the win.
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Post by Nightmare17 Wed Jan 20, 2010 8:34 pm

Landon wrote:pffffff

inner focus lead dnite for the win.
but why would i use Fake out on D-Knight that's a rookie error
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Post by kash Wed Jan 20, 2010 8:40 pm

Yeah D-Knight is always bulky, doing Fake Out would have no effect and it would be pointless because nobody would carry Focus Sash on Bulk like D-Knight (They'd reallyyyy have to be scared of ice beam of some ice move for that to happen).
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Post by Nightmare17 Wed Jan 20, 2010 8:44 pm

kash wrote:Yeah D-Knight is always bulky, doing Fake Out would have no effect and it would be pointless because nobody would carry Focus Sash on Bulk like D-Knight (They'd reallyyyy have to be scared of ice beam of some ice move for that to happen).
yea and even i don't fear ice beam, ice punch, or ice shards cuz my D-Knight has only been OHKOed 4 times out of like 50 times that ppl have used it against me
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