My Team Rate Please. :)

by Dragonkiller Mon May 10, 2010 4:49 pm

Flygon-Jolly
Moveset: U-turn, Outrage, Stone Edge, Earthquake
HP: 301
Attack: 299
Defense: 196
Special Attack: 176
Special Defense: 196
Speed: 328

Salamance-Adamant
Moveset: Dragon Dance, Earthquake, Stone Edge, Outrage
HP: 332
Attack: 405
Defense: 196
Special Attack: 230
Special Defense: 196
Speed: 299

Gallade-Adamant
Moveset: Psycho Cut, Leaf Blade, Close Combat, Swords Dance
HP: 277
Attack: 383
Defense: 157
Special Attack: 124
Special Defense: 262
Speed: 259

Tyranitar-Adamant
Moveset: Crunch, Stone Edge, Earthquake, Thunder Fang
HP: 341
Attack: 403
Defense: 319
Special Attack: 203
Special Defense: 236
Speed: 158

Jolteon-Timid
Moveset: Iron Tail, Charge Beam, Thunderbolt, Thunder Wave
HP: 271
Attack: 149
Defense: 156
Special Attack: 319
Special Defense: 226
Speed: 394

Metagross-Adamant
Moveset: Earthquake, Meteor Mash, Agility, Explosion
HP: 301
Attack: 405
Defense: 296
Special Attack: 203
Special Defense: 216
Speed: 239

I'm still not sure on wat items to use so if you guys have any ideas please say. Smile

Also if i missed anything let me know and i will be sure to add.

by snuffleoffagus Mon May 10, 2010 4:51 pm

I can say first hand that it's a force to be rekoned with. Great team dragon 10/10. Only thing I might suggest are more set ups and maybe a wall.

by BicBoi Mon May 10, 2010 4:53 pm

Its a really good team but tyranitars thunder fang to something else lol just saying but anyways 10/10

by blazingf Mon May 10, 2010 5:08 pm

Good team right now, but u need another pokemon evd in sp atk and maybe another wall. Also, I suggest one of ur pokemon to have an ice move.

by Kisame Mon May 10, 2010 6:04 pm

good tem but take out outrage on salamence unless u have something for it,but still 10/10

by hart Tue May 11, 2010 2:43 pm

i suggest u get a wall thats important and well the team 10/10 thats all i can say lol

~hart

by Dragonkiller Tue May 11, 2010 3:06 pm

shadow wrote:good tem but take out outrage on salamence unless u have something for it,but still 10/10

Sorry i'm not taking outrage off salamance he uses it best and with max attack it owns.

Guys i could use item advice if you guys have any.

by Kisame Tue May 11, 2010 3:58 pm

give a yanche berry or foucus sash for salamence because it a open target with bad defense

by Bob Wed May 12, 2010 7:30 am

You elite why no EVs??? EVs is bigger and better then stats

by Dragonkiller Wed May 12, 2010 3:15 pm

Bob wrote:You elite why no EVs??? EVs is bigger and better then stats

Bob if what your tryin to say is I don't use ev trained pokemon they are all very well ev trained.

by SuperiorSwampert Wed May 12, 2010 3:44 pm

It's pretty good, but to be honest, I'm liking Gallade and Jolteon the best. Jolteon needs Hidden Power Ice, and Gallade's fine. Tyranitar, suggestable moveset. Flygon and Salamence are too similar, and second-time battlers will expect that. I suggest on one of them to replace Stone Edge with Rock Slide. As for Metagross, I don't understand the concept of having Agility to be blunty honest. Other than that, it's a pretty strong team, but it could be better. Perhaps a 8.5/10.

by Superswampert65 Wed May 12, 2010 4:06 pm

I personally like the team but get rid of 2 physical attackers(Adamant Natures)And add a defence wall and a special wall and for the items look at :happy:

by KoolAid Wed May 12, 2010 4:25 pm

Uh i think you should get rid of iron tail cause thats physical and jolteon is a special sweeper

by nesan Wed May 12, 2010 5:41 pm

dragonkiller900 wrote:Flygon-Jolly
Moveset: U-turn, Outrage, Stone Edge, Earthquake
HP: 301
Attack: 299
Defense: 196
Special Attack: 176
Special Defense: 196
Speed: 328

Is this your lead? What's the purpose of it? Flygon is more of Scouter then a lead. A lead has certain purposes. With 299 attack Flygon isn't going to be doing much with Mamoswine, Swampert and Machamp running around. Without a scarf Azelf counter Flygon for sure. The only Pokémon this can counter is probably Heatran. (Which is banned here for some stupid reason.) Lead Heatran always carries Shuca Berry so there goes your KO.

Salamence-Adamant
Moveset: Dragon Dance, Earthquake, Stone Edge, Outrage
HP: 332
Attack: 405
Defense: 196
Special Attack: 230
Special Defense: 196
Speed: 299

Fire Blast over Stone Edge to counter Skarmory which counters most of your Pokémon is Jolteon is down. With all the Scarf Tyranitar running around Jolteon isn't going to live very long.

Gallade-Adamant
Moveset: Psycho Cut, Leaf Blade, Close Combat, Swords Dance
HP: 277
Attack: 383
Defense: 157
Special Attack: 124
Special Defense: 262
Speed: 259

Tyranitar-Adamant
Moveset: Crunch, Stone Edge, Earthquake, Thunder Fang
HP: 341
Attack: 403
Defense: 319
Special Attack: 203
Special Defense: 236
Speed: 158

Jolteon-Timid
Moveset: Iron Tail, Charge Beam, Thunderbolt, Thunder Wave
HP: 271
Attack: 149
Defense: 156
Special Attack: 319
Special Defense: 226
Speed: 394
Iron Tail is a Psychical move therefor it isn't good on a Jolteon. If you have it to counter Blissey then it's a stupid idea because 5 of your Pokémon are Physical sweepers. Maybe a Hidden Power can go over Iron Tail. With 149 attack even Blissey won't take any damage from Iron Tail.

Metagross-Adamant
Moveset: Earthquake, Meteor Mash, Agility, Explosion
HP: 301
Attack: 405
Defense: 296
Special Attack: 203
Special Defense: 216
Speed: 239

I'm still not sure on wat items to use so if you guys have any ideas please say.

Also if i missed anything let me know and i will be sure to add.

Threat List:

Skarmory = Counter 5 of your Pokémon. Replace Stone Edge on Salamence for Fire Blast.
Foretress = If it carries Earthquake then it counters all you Pokémon.
Gliscor - Only way to get rid of it is to Explode using Metagross. But if it takes you out before you Explode then you're screwed.

As you can see 5 of your Pokémon are Physical sweepers which is a terrible idea. You'll need some special side power to take care of defensive threats.

by **PokeCenter** Sun May 23, 2010 8:14 am

:Suicune: Just use 1 Dragon ice shard will own them both. Just get 1 owned by ice shard. :Suicune:

by maximo Wed Oct 06, 2010 6:07 pm

its ok but i bet i could beat you

by Blood_Moon69 Tue Oct 12, 2010 9:54 pm

*yawn*
i'm just going to say it now; i'm sorry.

First of all, Salamance is a uber. This team therefor cannot be used for OU and can't stand up to uber tier.
Now Flygon: Flygon is a scouter, t-wave absorber, and disrupter. He is not a starter. Sure you can move nature and ev's around to fit the rule, but is highly under-rank. Azelf with taunt will do much better and so would a good number of other pokemon. Keep Flygon if you want, i personally would, but not as a starter.

With Salamance gone you have a open slot. One that you should fill with a wall and one that appeals to your ground weakness. I suggest a Skarmory or a Gilscor.

You could stay with the power Tyranitar or mix it up with a cro-tar with curse. If you don't change the type of Tyranitar at least run a better move set. With all the tutoring of puches you shouldn't really have and fang moves. At least not on Tyranitar.

I understand the agility on the Metagross so there isn't much for me to say about him.

HP(ice) for Jolteon.
(WIP)

by Hyperbeem Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:33 pm

@SuperiorSwampert. Metagross has great bulk and awesome attack, but it's poor speed hampers it's sweeping ability. A common agiligross set:
Agiligross:
Adamant Nature
Life Orb
Evs: 60HP 252Atk 196Spd

Agility
Meteor Mash
Earthquake
Thunder Punch

by Blood_Moon69 Wed Oct 13, 2010 6:35 am

The Gallade i see problems with. He's not countering any real weaknesses and he's UU. Lucario easyly over powers him espesially with a CB.

A CM Suicune would run all over this team as long as he has two up before you which Jolteon in. Same with a SD Lucario if he was runing a extreem speed and EQ move set.

This is a lot so i'll let you work this out before i continue.
Over all rat- 4/10

by PL44 Wed Oct 13, 2010 6:45 am

Salamence is Uber, bro. You can't use it in standard OU play.

by Blood_Moon69 Wed Oct 13, 2010 3:09 pm

Am I just that mystifying that once i post a rate the topic is hushed to a stupor?
You asked for a rate and gave you one of beautiful synergy. Now go and be great, battler!

Go

and be great

by Talesfan1 Wed Oct 13, 2010 4:02 pm

Ok, I am going to lock this topic as it was massively necro posted, from May 23rd, all the way to maximos post on Oct 6th, that is over 4 months, that is unnecessary.

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